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Rules and fixtures will appear below on or before Monday 11 February 2008.
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thrall
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I am excited for it. We must do a Euro 2008 version of this in June.
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stephen_woodside
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Any idea's on points systems guys? I was thinking of adding a selection of players to choose from, where you pick one. If it is a defender and he scores, you get 3 points for each goal he scores. If it is a midfielder it would be two points for each goal scored and 1 point for a striker. What do you all think about introducing this to the game? The points system is still in delevopment at the minute so any idea's would be more than appreciated.
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steve31
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i will certainly join in.  with the points i would have 1 for a home win,1 for an away win and 1 for a draw.as for the correct score i would have 3 points.if you want to do the players how about 1 goalkeeper with points for a clean sheet,1 defender with points for a clean sheet and to score,1 midfielder with points to score and one attacker with points to score.i would class ronaldo and kaka as midfielders? 
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stephen_woodside
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Tarr for the input mate. In a short while i will announce my proposals but they will not be set in stone. Thanks for your ideas and others are welcome to add ideas and comments.
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stephen_woodside
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My proposals for the points system are as folows:-
General Predictions (90 minutes only,Extra time does not count)
1 Point for Home win.
1 Point for Away win.
2 Points for a draw.
5 Bonus Points for correct scoreline.
Pick only one Outfield Player from anyone of the sides involved in the given evening.
Chosen Player Points system (90 minutes only,extra time does not count)
1 point for every minute your chosen player plays in.
Points gained for Goals scored by your chosen player (90 mins only, Penalty shoot-outs do not count):-
3 points for each goal a Defender scores.
2 points for each goal a Midfielder scores.
1 point for each goal a Striker scores.
Discipline (90 minutes only,extra time does not count)
- 5 points If Chosen player recieves a yellow card
- 10 points if chosen player recieves a red card
(no more than a 15 point penalty for a player recieving yellow, a second yellow followed by red)
Information of Minutes played by the chosen player, and what Position the chosen player is registered in will be taken from the uefa.com official website and no other source. Entries for your chosen player will have to come from each individual once knowing the team news, so allowing the predictions to be posted around 10 minutes before kick off.
Any thoughts on this scoring system folks?
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Fixtures & Squads will appear below on or before Friday 1 February 2008.
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Any thoughts on this scoring system folks?
Is Kaka a striker or a midfielder?
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badgerboy
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Far too many points for a correct scoreline. Correct scorelines are often more luck than judgment. Even when they're not they're never worth 5x the points of getting the right outcome.
2 pts for a correct outcome (including draws) & just 1 bonus point for the correct score.
I'm also not sure I personally see the need for the "fantasy football" element. I'd keep it to predicticing match outcomes only.
That said, I probably wont be taking part in these new games as I already do my CL & UEFA Cup predictions on another forum (with a points system I like  . Plus I do my "fantasy football" on UEFA.com - when I can be bothered to get round to changing my team each week.
Edit: I've just noticed something even more ludicrous. 1 point per minute played by your chosen player? So if your player - whether it be Kaka, Fabregas, Messi etc. gets injured and has to go off at half-time you're 45 points down on everyone else. Even if you predict all 8 last 16 games 100% right that's just 40 points. You could probably be brilliant all the way through the competition & come last because your player got sent-off or kicked off the pitch ten minutes into the final.
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stephen_woodside
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Is Kaka a striker or a midfielder?
I will be going by uefa.com and their squad lists. Kaka on their site is an attacker. If i stick to uefa's official site, there could be no queries of who plays where, minutes played etc.
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stephen_woodside
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Far too many points for a correct scoreline. Correct scorelines are often more luck than judgment. Even when they're not they're never worth 5x the points of getting the right outcome.
2 pts for a correct outcome (including draws) & just 1 bonus point for the correct score.
I'm also not sure I personally see the need for the "fantasy football" element. I'd keep it to predicticing match outcomes only.
That said, I probably wont be taking part in these new games as I already do my CL & UEFA Cup predictions on another forum (with a points system I like . Plus I do my "fantasy football" on UEFA.com - when I can be bothered to get round to changing my team each week.
Thanks for the input badgerboy. I may lower the 5 point bonus, that said, i still wont tempt you into entering which is fair enough as you are involved elsewhere. The points system is still under construction so nothing is set in stone and i have a month to make a final decision. Cheers again mate.
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thrall
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Chosen Player Points system (90 minutes only,extra time does not count)
1 point for every minute your chosen player plays in.
So that means if our player plays 90 minutes, we get 90 points ? Well, then it will be high on numbers, it will be more difficult to count.
I think you may put Assist bonus for a player as well, Assist is as important as a goal i think.
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stephen_woodside
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Squad lists and points system to follow shortly. Thanks to those who came up with the ideas etc. All will be more than welcome to join the competition which is a taster in preperation for next season's tournament, If successful that is. A Euro 2008 competition will also be up and running in the summer to pass away those months in readiness for the start of the new league campaign. Hope many of you join in this comp for a bit of interest. All the best, ste.
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stephen_woodside
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Final proposals for the points system are as folows:-
General Predictions (90 minutes only,Extra time does not count)
1 Point for Home win.
1 Point for Away win.
2 Points for a draw.
3 Bonus Points for correct scoreline.
Each Matchday, Pick Four Players, 1 Goalkeeper, 1 Defender, 1 Midfielder and 1 Striker from as many clubs as you wish. For example, if you wished to pick Cech, Terry, Joe Cole and Drogba from Chelsea then so be it, however you have freedom to choose singular players from any team/s on the given matchday fixture list.
Points gained for Goals scored/conceded by your chosen players (90 mins only, Penalty shoot-outs do not count):-
Goalkeeper: 2 points for a clean sheet,
-1 point for each goal conceded.
Defender: 3 points for each goal scored for his team,
-1 point for every own goal conceded
Midfielder: 2 points for each goal scored for his team,
-1 point for every own goal conceded.
Striker: 1 point for each goal scored for his team,
-1 point for every own goal conceded.
All players: 10 additional bonus points for a hat-trick to be scored for his team.
Discipline (90 minutes only,extra time does not count)
- 5 points If any Chosen player receives a yellow card
- 10 points if any chosen player receives a red card
(no more than a 15 point penalty total for a each player receiving yellow, a second yellow followed by red).
Note: How each individual chooses his or her players depends on waiting for official confirmed team news or assuming your chosen players will start the games, however if a player of your choice does not make an appearance, then obviously no points can be scored so choose carefully. Also take note that players positions are taken from uefa.com and there squad listings. Check out for updates on the squad rota's or omissions due to a lack of updated information.
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stephen_woodside
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How the Fixture List will look
Tue 19 Feb: Shalke 04 Squad v FC Porto Squad
Tue 19 Feb: AS Roma Squad v Real Madrid Squad
Tue 19 Feb: Olympiacos Squad v Chelsea Squad
Tue 19 Feb: Liverpool Squad v Inter Milan Squad
Wed 20 Feb: Celtic Squad v Barcelona Squad
Wed 20 Feb: Lyon Squad v Manchester United Squad
Wed 20 Feb: Fenerbahce Squad v Seville Squad
Wed 20 Feb: Arsenal Squad v AC Milan Squad
* All kick-off times 19:45
As you can see, the set up is identical to the Premier League Competition but each team as a direct link to uefa.com's squad pages. Hopefully this will simplify matters when choosing your players.
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stephen_woodside
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How my Predictions may look
Tue 19 Feb: Shalke 04 1 FC Porto 1
Tue 19 Feb: AS Roma 1 Real Madrid 2
Tue 19 Feb: Olympiacos 1 Chelsea 2
Tue 19 Feb: Liverpool 1 Inter Milan 1
My Player selections:-
Goalkeeper: Peter Cech (Chelsea)
Defender: Fabio Cannavaro (Real Madrid)
Midfielder: Steven Gerrard (Liverpool)
Striker: Zlatan Ibrahimovich (Inter Milan)
Note: The previous post included all midweek Champions League games. However in the competition, Tuesday's and Wednesday's fixtures will be seperated in order to aquire the appropriate team news.
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stephen_woodside
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UEFA Champions Leaugue - Tuesday 19 February 2008
Shalke 04 Squad v FC Porto Squad
AS Roma Squad v Real Madrid Squad
Olympiacos Squad v Chelsea Squad
Liverpool Squad v Inter Milan Squad
All kick off times at 19:45 (GMT)
Final, Final proposals for the points system are as folows:-
General Predictions (90 minutes only,Extra time does not count)
1 Point for Home win.
1 Point for Away win.
2 Points for a draw.
3 Bonus Points for correct scoreline.
Pick Four Players, 1 Goalkeeper, 1 Defender, 1 Midfielder and 1 Striker from as many clubs as you wish. For example, if you wished to pick Cech, Terry, Joe Cole and Drogba from Chelsea then so be it, however you have freedom to choose singular players from any team/s on the given matchday.
Points gained for Goals scored/conceded by your chosen players (90 mins only, Penalty shoot-outs do not count):-
Goalkeeper: +2 points for a clean sheet,
-1 point for each goal conceded.
Defender: +3 points for each goal scored for his team,
+2 points for a clean sheet (late tactical substitution appearances do not count, player must play a minimum of 20 minutes).
-1 point for every own goal conceded
Midfielder: +2 points for each goal scored for his team,
-1 point for every own goal conceded.
Striker: +1 point for each goal scored for his team,
-1 point for every own goal conceded.
All players: +10 points for a hat-trick to be scored for his team.
Discipline (90 minutes only,extra time does not count)
-1 point for each yellow card shown to chosen player selected
-3 points if any chosen player receives a red card
(Maximum -5 point penalty if chosen player receives a yellow card, a second yellow followed by red).
All are welcome to enter
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thrall
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Schalke 2 Porto 1
Roma 1 Real Madrid 0
Olympiacos 1 Chelsea 1
Liverpool 0 Inter 0
Goalkeeper: Doni
Defender: Westermann
Midfielder: Lampard
Forward: Totti
I wish luck to you in your predictions.
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stephen_woodside
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Ste Woodside's Predictions
Schalke 1 Porto 0
Roma 1 Real Madrid 2
Olympiacos 1 Chelsea 2
Liverpool 1 Inter Milan 1
Players
G: Neurer (Porto)
D: Bordon (Porto)
M: Robben (Real Madrid)
F: Drogba (Chelsea)
Good luck also thrall and any other participants.
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g_woodside
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Liverpool v Iter Milan 1-1
Olmypiacos v Chelsea 1-2
Roma v Real Madrid 0-1
Schalke v FC Porto 1-2
Goalkeeper=Cech(Chelsea)
Defender=Bordon(Schalke)
Midfielder=Gerrard(Liverpool)
Forward=Nistlerooy(Real Madrid)
Edited by g_woodside (19/02/2008 19:24)
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steve31
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steve31 predictions:
Schalke v Porto 1-2
Roma v Real Madrid 2-2
Olympiakos v Chelsea 0-1
Liverpool v Inter Milan 1-0
G-reina
D-belletti
M-L-gonzalez
A-van nistelrooy
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thrall
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@ stephen: Neuer is schalke`s keeper mate . You want to play for Neuer or Helton ( porto`s keeper ) ?
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stephen_woodside
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Results - Tuesday 19 February 2008
Schalke 1 Porto 0
AS Roma 2 Real Madrid 1
Olympiacos 0 Chelsea 0
Liverpool 2 Inter Milan 0
Leaderboard
1: g woodside 0 + 2 + 2 + 2 = 6 points
Chosen Player Pts: Cech +2 points (Clean Sheet), Bordon +2 points (Clean Sheet),Gerrard +2 points (Goal).
2: thrall 4 - 1 + 2 = 5 points
Chosen Player Pts: Doni -1 point (Conceded Goal), Westerman +2 points (Clean Sheet)
2: stephen woodside 4 - 1 + 2 = 5 points
Chosen Player Pts: Neurer -1 point (Conceded Goal), Bordon +2 points (Clean Sheet)
3: steve31 1 + 2 - 1 = 2 points
Chosen Player Pts: Reina +2 points (Clean Sheet), Belletti -1 point (Yellow Card)
Thanks thrall for your attempt in warning me of my error, unfortunately i intended to pick Porto keeper Helton but due to my own mistake, i have to now stick with Neurer, Had i avoided this error, i would have found myself top with 7 points at this early stage. But once again, my brother who got 0 points for each match outcome, just happened to gain 6 points through his player selections alone and continues in doing my head in  .
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stephen_woodside
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UEFA Champions League - Wednesday 20 February 2008
Arsenal Squad v AC Milan Squad
Celtic Squad v Barcelona Squad
Fenerbahce Squad v Seville Squad
Lyon Squad v Manchester United Squad
All kick off times at 19:45 (GMT)
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g_woodside
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Arsenal 1-1 AC Milan
Celtic 0-2 Barcelona
Fenebahce 1-0 Seville
Lyon 1-2 Man Utd
Goalkeeper- Valdes(Barcelona)
Defender-Carlos(Fenebahce)
Midfielder-Scholes(Man Utd)
Forward-Persie(Arsenal)
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steve31
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belletti got a clean sheet aswell?
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steve31
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steve31 predictions:
Arsenal v Milan 1-0
Celtic v Barcelona 1-1
Fenerbahce v Sevilla 2-1
Lyon v Man Utd 2-2
G-Lehmann
D-Gallas
M-Juninho
F-Ronaldo
Edited by steve31 (20/02/2008 17:05)
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stephen_woodside
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Leaderboard
1: g woodside 0 + 2 + 2 + 2 = 6 points
Chosen Player Pts: Cech +2 points (Clean Sheet), Bordon +2 points (Clean Sheet),Gerrard +2 points (Goal).
2: thrall 4 - 1 + 2 = 5 points
Chosen Player Pts: Doni -1 point (Conceded Goal), Westerman +2 points (Clean Sheet)
2: stephen woodside 4 - 1 + 2 = 5 points
Chosen Player Pts: Neurer -1 point (Conceded Goal), Bordon +2 points (Clean Sheet).
3: steve31 1 + 2 - 1 + 2 = 4 points
Chosen Player Pts: Reina +2 points (Clean Sheet), Belletti -1 point (Yellow Card) and +2 points (Clean Sheet).
Sorry steve mate.
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stephen_woodside
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Arsenal v AC Milan 1-0
Celtic v Barcelona 0-1
Fenerbahce v Sevilla 2-1
Lyon v Manchester United 1-1
G: Valdes (Barcelona)
D: Puyol (Barcelona)
M: Fabregas (Arsenal)
F: Kezman (Fenerbahce)
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Results - Wednesday 20 February 2008
Arsenal 0 AC Milan 0
Celtic 2 Barcelona 3
Fenerbahce 3 Sevile 2
Lyon 1 Manchester United 1
Latest Points Tally
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