stephen_woodside
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My predictions for the Copa America 2007
Group A
June 26: Uruguay 3 Peru 1.
June 26: Venezuela 2 Bolivia 0.
June 30: Bolivia 1 Uruguay 3.
June 30: Venezuela 1 Peru 0.
July 3: Peru 1 Bolivia 0.
July 3: Venezuela 1 Uruguay 1.
1-Uruguay------P3 W2 D1 L0 F7 A3 PTS7 GD+4
2-Venezuela----P3 W2 D1 L0 F4 A1 PTS7 GD+3
3-Peru-----------P3 W1 D0 L2 F2 A4 PTS3 GD-2
4-Bolivia---------P3 W0 D0 L3 F1 A6 PTS0 GD-5
Group B
June 27: Ecuador 1 Chile 1.
June 27: Brazil 1 Mexico 1.
July 1: Brazil 2 Chile 1.
July 1: Mexico 2 Ecuador 1.
July 4: Mexico 2 Chile 0.
July 4: Brazil 2 Ecuador 1.
1-Mexico------P3 W2 D1 L0 F5 A2 PTS7 GD+3
2-Brazil--------P3 W2 D1 L0 F5 A3 PTS7 GD+2
3-Ecuador-----P3 W0 D1 L2 F3 A5 PTS1 GD-2
4-Chile---------P3 W0 D1 L2 F2 A5 PTS1 GD-3
Group C
June 28: Paraguay 1 Colombia 2.
June 28: Argentina 2 USA 1.
July 2: USA 2 Paraguay 1.
July 2: Argentina 2 Colombia 1.
July 5: Colombia 1 USA 0.
July 5: Argentina 3 Paraguay 1.
1-Argentina----P3 W3 D0 L0 F7 A3 PTS9 GD+4
2-Colombia-----P3 W2 D0 L1 F4 A3 PTS6 GD+1
3-USA----------P3 W1 D0 L2 F3 A4 PTS3 GD-3
4-Paraguay----P3 W0 D0 L3 F3 A7 PTS0 GD-4
Quarter Finals
July 7: Uruguay 2 Ecuador 1.
July 7: USA 1 Brazil 2.
July 8: Mexico 1 Colombia 1 (Colombia win on pens).
July 8: Argentina 3 Venezuela 1.
Semi Finals
July 10: Uruguay 2 Brazil 2 (Uruguay win on pens).
July 11: Colombia 1 Argentina 2.
Third-Place Play-Off
July 14: Brazil 1 Colombia 2.
Final
July 15: Uruguay 1 Argentina 2.
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Edited by goldenvision (10/06/2007 23:21)
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Sam
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Colombia to the semis? Uruguay to the final? That's quite a bold set of predictions... we shall see...
Sam
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stephen_woodside
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It is bold is'nt it. I just cant see Brazil doing as well in this tournament without some of there big names. Argentina have the strongest squad to me but i really did not know what to do with Chile, although i feel they are a decent team i just think being in Mexico's and Brazil's group. On Uruguay, they have reached the semi-finals of this tournament on a few occasions in recent times and may just go that bit further setting up what would be a very tasty final between two feiry close rivals.
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Sam
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Could be. When I was in Uruguay for a few days in January there was a lot of talk in the press about how the standard of their football isn't what it once was... at one point they picked the national side from across the Argentine and European leagues, now many of them are playing in an Uruguayan first division that, to put it kindly and not withstanding Nacional's run to this year's Libertadores quarter-finals, ain't what it once was.
That being said any side with Forlán and Chevanton up front is going to score some goals.
Sam
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subhankar_mondal
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You know,I am gonna ask World Soccer to make a separate area for Copa America 2007......
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Subhankar Mondal is a football writer for www.goal.com.
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righteous1
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Im not going to predict every result, but having looked at the groups and likely draws, I reckon the semi final line up will be:
Venezuela v Mexico
Brazil v Argentina
With the final being a re-match of that great World Cup second round game between:
Argentina v Mexico
With Argentina again narrow winners for their first trophy since 1993 after another hardfought fiery encounter.
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Mauricio
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I must say that I too am not too confident of Brazil's good results. The team is far from being the best we've got and lacking the team spirit. Many players have never played together and won't have enough time to practice in order to become a proper team, intead of just a group of players.
I am also suspicious of Dunga's skills as a manager as he doesn't have enough experience at it (he had neber managed a team before that...).
Nevertheless, we must not forget that it's the Brazilian National Team we are talking about and that even our 2nd squad has got plenty of great players. Maybe they will put on an extra effort oin order to ensure their place in the team.
Attention to Robinho, Diego and Helano, who played wonders for Santos when they first started...
Who knows?
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Mauricio
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I just cant see Brazil doing as well in this tournament without some of there big names.
Let's not forget that we didn't have many of our big names in the last Copa America...
Do you remember the final result? 
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stephen_woodside
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I remember the final result mauricio, Brazil finished second in the group behind Paraguay who won the Brazilians 2-1. In the quarter final you destroyed Mexico 4-0 but then struggled once again winning Uruguay 5-3 on penalties in the semi final after a 2-2 draw then had to once again go to pens again in the final winning Argentina 4-2 in the shoot out after a 2-2 draw. Hardly convincing would you not say. Has for having your big players missing, well in the squad included Adriano (Internazionale); Mancini (AS Roma); Juan (Bayer Leverkusen); Luisao (Benfica); Ricardo Oliveira (Valencia); Edu (Arsenal); Cris, Maicon (both Cruzeiro). Not the strongest squad they could have fielded but hardly what i would call a weak team that lost in the League stage and had to rely on Penalties twice to get their hands on the trophy. I like Brazil and admire some of the players at their disposal but they are no longer has good has people make out. With Ronaldinho and Kaka out of the squad, i just cant see a repeat of 2004, i may be wrong but only time will tell. In my opinion, Brazil will rely far too much on Robinho and as good a player he is he still as flaws to his game and with him playing alongside Vagner Love up-front who does not impress me too much, i cant see where too many goals will be scored. Brazil should reach the semi finals but wont be as lucky on the penalty shoot out that they twice were three years ago. 
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Edited by goldenvision (13/06/2007 00:22)
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das
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I agree that brazil will stutter in the tournament but i would say that an argentina vs mexico final would be a cracker ! personally, i like to see the lesser teams do well so, i hope that venezuela do some damage. They are the hosts arent they ??
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stephen_woodside
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Cannot disagree with you das. Mexico v Argentina would be a good final but we will just have to wait and see. I am really looking forward to watching the tournament but i am disappointed Kaka and Ronaldhino wont be featuring for the Brazilians.
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Mauricio
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Has for having your big players missing, well in the squad included Adriano (Internazionale); Mancini (AS Roma); Juan (Bayer Leverkusen); Luisao (Benfica); Ricardo Oliveira (Valencia); Edu (Arsenal); Cris, Maicon (both Cruzeiro). Not the strongest squad they could have fielded but hardly what i would call a weak team that lost in the League stage and had to rely on Penalties twice to get their hands on the trophy.
That's kinda what I was trying to say, with one detail: many of the players you mentioned, as Adrano, Mancini, Edu, Cris and Maicon, and others like Julio Cesar (Internazionale) were not on the starting 11 and just estabilished themselves in the national team after that competition.
And my point was: We may not have the strongest squad possible, we may lack some of our best players, but we are still Brazil and just that yellow shirt alone has a great impact on the oponents. Sometimes it takes more than just skill to win the trophy (even tough it's still absolutely necessary).
We Brazilians are usually too critical over our national team. We often criticise them possibli more than they deserved. And this time it hasn't been different. BUt I think we can still kick Mexico's butt... 
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subhankar_mondal
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Something tells me that this is going to be some Copa America. Looking at the group stage, you do fancy a tough battle between the teams,especially in Group C,which I predict will be a close call.
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Mauricio
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I don't see Group C as being a tough group. Argentina is going to have no problems being the first of the group, and Paraguay might get the second place if they get their forwards right...
Group B is the one I see as being the toughest one. Brazil and Mexico will provide us a good battle and Ecuador is going to be right beside them. Chile won't surprise them, I guess, but will put on some nice games.
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subhankar_mondal
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Oh,all apology. I got the Groups wrong. I actually meant Group B with the likes of Brazil,Chile,Ecuador and Mexico.
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jjvirgo
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Must admit I quite fancy the Mexicans to do well. They often perform pretty well at the Copa and are certainly capable of getting a result against Brazil. I can see them progressing quite well unless they come up against the Argentinians early on. Does anybody know if Riquelme has been named in the squad ? Thinking about it, is there a decent site that has all the official squad listsings yet ? There doesn't seem to be anything on the World Soccer site.
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badgerboy
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The Wiki as ever isn't a bad starting point.
Some of the squad lists are more up to date than others. Argentina has Agustin Orion in because Ustari is injured for example while others are still showing provisional squads. But - as an example - I clicked on the link for the Colombia squad & the link gives you the final 22 man squad.
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Sam
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Jjvirgo - yes, Riquelme's been talked into 'un-retiring', and is in Argentina's squad.
Sam
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worldsoccer
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Thinking about it, is there a decent site that has all the official squad listsings yet ? There doesn't seem to be anything on the World Soccer site.
The squad lists have all been posted on the site along with previews for each country. There's also the complete schedule and Tim Vickery's background article to the tournament which appeared in the World Soccer magazine.
Just click here for more:
http://www.worldsoccer.com/competitions/copa_america/index.php
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Pixy10
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I've just put 20 euro on Uruguay to win the Copa, at 10-1. Am I mad or does anyone here think they have a chance? I know Brazil and Argentina are the clear favourites but Uruguay could have a reasonably smooth passage to the semis if they play well. Their defence (usually their strongest point) was awful in the 2006 WC Qualifiers but hopefully theyve stregnthened up, theyve had some good results in friendlies recently too. Also I know O.W. Tabarez is back at the helm ... reckon they could at least be best outsiders ...
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