Sam
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You should get messages from your firewall telling you it's blocking it, yes, but it's worth checking the list of 'blocked' and 'allowed' programs all the same.
You're not on Vista, are you?
Sam
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stephen_woodside
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Badgerboy and Steven - have you used Sopcast much? You might want to check your firewall's not blocking it. Otherwise try deleting the files, clearing your internet history and temporary files, and re-downloading and installing it.
Thanks for the info Sam, i deleted sopcast last night and downloaded it from scratch and all seems fine again. I have used sopcast for around four months now and its a great little programme, ok you dont always get to watch the games you want to but what can you expect for free.
Thanks again sam, much appreciated.
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Sam
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Glad you've got it back up, and, erm, sorry for mis-spelling your name - I've done it on the 'Barca sign Henry' thread as well, I think, and only just noticed. I know how annoying it is because believe it or not people manage to spell my surname (Kelly) incorrectly all the time!
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Mauricio
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Paraguay 5 0 Colombia ...
Roque Santa Cruz scored 3 times and Cabañas scored twice. If Paraguay really got their forward line in shape, they'll be good competition for Argentina. Remember, they play against the Argentineans on the last round of the first phase. If they beat the Americans and have a higher numbers of goals scored, they'll play the Argentines for a draw in order to get the first place in the group. It's possible...
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badgerboy
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For some reason I always seem to have grief with these things.
I deleted whatever part of Sopcast I'd previously downloaded & then tried again from scratch via the site Stephen suggested initially & nothing happened at all - I guess due to a problem with the site. I'm trying again now but all I seem to get with anything sopcast related is a "connecting" message which never turns into a "connected" one.
I also attempted to get my firewall to grant an exception for sopcast (in case that's a problem) but for some reason that didn't work either!
I think I'll have to settle for watching the highlights on the internet tomorrow morning.
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Sam
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Which site did Stephen recommend? I can't remember the thread it was in to look for it, but try the download from the official sopcast site if it wasn't that one you first attempted. There's a new version out so if it's a month or two since your first use, you may find that solves some things.
Make sure the old one is fully uninstalled and totally scrubbed off your system first, mind.
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Mauricio
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Argentina played really well yesterday and defeated the Americans by 4-1. The Americans started ahead and the Argentineans took a while to impose their rythm, but in the second half they commanded the game and showed they're really the favourites for the title.
As a Brazilian (and an Argentina's football rival) it hurts me to aknowledge that they are the best team of the competition... But they are.
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stephen_woodside
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The site i directed badgerboy to sam is the exact same site that i have been watching live football on for the last four months. There must be something blocking badgerboy's ability to connect to the site and watch these live games as i am certain he has done everything possibly correct to access the games from the site, what the problem is i cant say. What official sopcast page you have just posted takes you strangely to a world soccer page that reads error 404. This is no criticism to you has you are trying to assit like me but if you can resolve this problem , please do as i have ran out of options now.
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badgerboy
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I've actually tried downloading the software from the official sopcast site and the site Stephen first recommended
- which is this one . I deleted the first download from my system completely (or at least as completely as I know how) before trying the second download.
Neither seemed to work - or at least if it did I didn't know how to make it work! I got a whole bunch of files in a folder one of which was something like "main sopcast" and had a list of channels but whether I tried connecting through that channel list or going back to the Myp2p site & connecting to the channels through that - nothing worked. So I assumed something has gone wrong somewhere along the line...
Not to worry. Other than being milded annoyed that I can't get something apparently comparatively simple to work it's no big deal.
I'm more annoyed that I didn't have at least a fiver on Paraguay - as well as Ecuador - given I couldn't believe the high odds of either team (compared to say Uruguay) at the start of the tournament. They probably wont win it but 5-0 in the first game suggests it would've been worth wasting a fiver just for the ride...
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Sam
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Stephen - That's odd. I typed the address in properly when I made the post. Anyway the official address is sopcast.com, but Badger's tried that too so...
I only suggested it because sometimes forums / other sites have links to download old versions (obviously they're updated as frequently as possible but some updates for some programs do get missed), so it was worth a stab.
Anyway, back on-topic... Mauricio, I couldn't catch the Argentina game myself (too late at night considering I had to be up for work today) but 'played well' certainly weren't the words the Argentine papers were using this morning! 4-1's not a bad score bearing in mind some of the trouble they've had adjusting to life post-Pekerman, though, and it's great (as a River fan) to hear Aimar came off the bench and made the difference. Not that Basile will let Aimar's or Tevez's performances affect his starting XI, of course...
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Pello
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Argentina played really well yesterday and defeated the Americans by 4-1. The Americans started ahead and the Argentineans took a while to impose their rythm, but in the second half they commanded the game and showed they're really the favourites for the title.
I have to say some credit should go to the Americans.
They field what basically is a C-team. Still, they were very tactically disciplined and stumped the Argentinians for much of the game by meeting them high up on the pitch, blocking much of their one-touch passing lines and effectively removing Messi from the action.
(The game actually reminded me of Argentina - Sweden in 2002 where a superior Argentinian team were tactically outsmarted by the Swedes and Argentina were sent home after barely managing a draw.)
Eddie Johnson posed more of a threat than I had expected but unfortunately he didn't really challenge the Argentinian defenders with his pace - even on the penalty situation he looked like he had squandered a great chance by overthinking it, before being knocked over.
Things kinda fell apart after Argentinas second but if Argentina has this much trouble breaking down the US I don't really see them cruising in this tournament.
The US have a chance of squeezing through to the next round by getting three against a clearly weak Colombian side but I don't see them going very far.
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Mauricio
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it's great (as a River fan) to hear Aimar came off the bench and made the difference.
I'm not a River fan myself, but as an Aimar's football fan (for I think he's a great player), I was also happy to see him play. But I wouldn't go as far as saying that he made the difference. He scored a nice goal, that's true (although Messi was preparing what could have been a beautiful shot just behind him. Would he have got it right, I wonder), but so did Tevez, who played only for a few minutes. Riquelme had flashes of a good performance, but most of the time he was kind of disconnected from the game. Messi, in my opinion, was the one who made the difference in the second half. Playing through the left wing he had much more space in the second half.
I too would like to see Argentina playing Aimar (who did play very well, don't get me wrong) instead of Cambiasso. Especially against Colombia, once that Cambiasso's defensiveness is not gonna be so necessary... But will that happen?
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Sam
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I wouldn't call Cambiasso defensive but he's got more bustle and less finesse than Aimar, obviously. Of course, Aimar's really a 10 whereas Cambiasso's an 8(*), but I agree that it might be better to use Aimar - perhaps instead of Verón, who from what I've heard did very little all game against the States.
But I'd be surprised if Basile changes anything, he's a stubborn git.
Sam
(*) For the benefit of those not familiar with Argentina's system of 'football positions by numbers', '10' as we all know is a playmaker, normally a forward who drops deep rather than a midfielder who pushes up, but it's a flexible enough category for Riquelme to be included in it. '8' refers to a box-to-box player like Cambiasso, Keane, Essien etc., and a '5' plays in the 'holding' position but doesn't necessarily defend a lot - he's really a deep-lying playmaker. Gago, Mascherano, Redondo, Passarella, Ardiles - all are examples of different guises of the '5'.
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badgerboy
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I've just got round to watching the brief highlights from yesterday's games.
It looks like the referee may have favoured the hosts slightly (how unusual to see that in football!) as Venezuela beat Peru 2-0. Peru down to 10 after 15 minutes - possibly the right decision as the Peru player was definitely guilty of a flailing elbow even if the reaction was (again unusually) an oscar contender. It looked like Peru should've had a penalty in the second half with the score still at 1-0 though. And I thought there was at least a hint of offside about Venezuela's second.
In the other game Uruguay moved right back into contention in the group by beating Bolivia 1-0.
Venezuela lead the group with 4 points & play Uruguay (3 pts) in their last match. Peru (3 pts) play Bolivia (1 pt). Depending on how the other groups develop in the next few days it may be that a draw favours both Venezuela & Uruguay. I'd expect Peru to see off Bolivia but then I've been wrong a few times already in the tournament so far...
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badgerboy
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Brazil 3 Chile 0
A Robinho hattrick - the last two of which were pretty decent goals. I only saw brief highlights of the game (about 9 minutes) but Brazil didn't look as dominant as the score suggested. Their first was a dubious looking penalty (at least to me) & they didn't really take the game by the scruff of the neck until Robinho's second quite late in the day. Chile certainly had their moments & with Mexico already through I'd fancy their chances of making the next round.
Mexico progressed (although possibly that's not yet confirmed mathematically) by beating Ecuador 2-1. The first goal was some very neat interpassing finished off by Castillo. I think this month's WS had a piece on him saying that Mexicans were beginning to question "was he worth the trouble?" (he had the option to play for both Uruguay & Greece too). Early indications are that the answer is a resounding"yes".
With Brazil left to play it's probable that Ecuador will go home with zero points - hence justifying the bookies astronomical odds at the start of the tournament. From what I've seen of their games though (again only brief highlights) they've contributed a lot more to the competition than a lot of teams I've seen go a lot further in other tournaments.
One correction on my last post. The second Venezuela goal definitely wasn't offside. That's what you get for watching edited highlights in a language (Portuguese) you don't understand...
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Brazil, again, were disappointing, and Robinho really was the difference. He was simply superb, particularly in the later stages of the contest. It was a fairly close game, however, and Suazo missed a great chance to equalize for Chile after 70 minutes. There was also an inept performance from the referee, Carlos Torres from Paraguay, who took an eternity to get the game restarted after Robinho converted his first half penalty.
I agree that Ecuador have been a little unlucky. Had they been places in Group A they would probably have been a good bet to qualify.
One would have to fancy Argentina to beat a dispirited Colombian side, and Paraguay to defeat a weak USA team in tonight's matches ...
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Mauricio
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The main problem with the Brazilian team is, in my opinion, that they're not playing as a team. Dunga is failing with flyingh colors in his managing position (He was not qualified, to begin with, and some say that he's only filling the position until Luiz Felipe Scolari is available after Euro 2008). The fact is that this is not even close to being the best Brazilian national team possible (even without Kaka and Ronaldinho) and, despite the fact that a renovation is in progress (only players who may play the 2010 World Cup are being called to the Brazilian team), they could do much better.
It is possible that they start playing better as the tournament progresses, due to more practicing time, but I wouldn't bet on it.
I might be wrong (and I sort of hope to be), but I don't think Brazil will make it much further.
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badgerboy
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The expected wins for Paraguay & Argentina mean that they are both qualified for the quarter-finals - as are Venezuela & Mexico.
At the moment no team is yet out of the competition - although the USA & Colombia may well be before they conclude Group C.
In Group A Bolivia would qualify with a win over Peru while Peru just need a point in that game. A point would suit both Venezuela & Uruguay in their match - although Venezuela might need to win to win the group. They will know this by the time they play though as - unlike in most international tournaments - it seems that the last games are still staggered rather than kicking-off simultaneously. Rather ironic if that's the case as it was largely South American teams that were involved in earlier controversies that led to most tournaments adopting the "simultaneous" rule.
A point will also be enough for Chile against Mexico & Brazil against Ecuador. A two goal win for Ecuador against Brazil would be enough for them to progress unless the USA were able to beat Colombia by five goals or Colombia the USA by seven.
Actually looking at the relatively poor goal difference of both the USA & Colombia it's conceivable that Uruguay and/or Chile could still qualify as "best 3rds" even if they lose their last games.
My "cynical side" still suspects that one of Argentina & Brazil will win their group & one wont (thus ensuring they can't meet until the final). I hope I'm wrong though - not because I've got anything against either of these teams but because I'd like to see someone different in the spotlight for a change...
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I have been out of the loop,mates,so I have to just fit in all my takes on the Copa America.
My first observance has been the woefulness of the Brazilian national team. Even though,this Brazilian national side is bereft of the likes of Kaka,Ronaldo and Ronaldinho,still the football that these bunch of players have playted have been hard to digest. Robinho is the only outstanding Brtazilian so far in the competition and that tells. I have been anticiapting fireworks from Diego(and I am more than certain that Darren too must have doing the same) but he was pretty ordinary in his first game against Mexico. The U-20 World Cup side too were pushed to the corne in their first match and is there a common thread of connectivity out there or am I readng too much into this matter?
Argentina have played the best football of the competition so far though it comes as a little surprise since they have send a full strenght side to the Copa America and 8 goals in two matches tells really! Riquelme has been wrecking havoc and no doubt that he is back to prove a point or twop about his international comeback from retirement. I would like to see more of Tevez and Gago though.
Mexico have been another team to watch. Their game is built on counter-attack but they scred twice against Brazil and have already booked their place in the quarte-finals. Venezuela have been inmpressive too in their own back alley and maybe this competition would provide them the platform on which to build for the future. Uruguay have been hugel;y disappointing though.
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badgerboy
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Last night saw the conclusion of Group A.
In the first match Peru twice came from behind to draw 2-2 with Bolivia & progress to the last 8. Two headed goals from Claudio Pizarro - both from set-pieces were enough against a Bolivia side who (based on brief highlights) appeared to produce the neater football. Their two goals - from Moreno & Campos - were both of an excellent standard.
Perhaps predictably the second match between Venezuela & Uruguay petered out in a 0-0 draw - a result both sides could be very happy with. Venezuela qualify as group winners and Uruguay are sure to be one of the best thirds.
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