Sam
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Haha... that would have been great to see, though. Imagine a strike duo of Lineker and Sánchez!
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The Luís González who Porto have recently turned down ENORMOUS transfer bids from Valencia for? Going to Everton?
So historically Valencia are bigger than Everton are you indicating, why? Because they had a good spell in the Champions " Chumpions" League for two years?? Anyone with an ounce of sense will tell you the English League is the most attractive to join. Unfortunately, your prefered subject is Argentinian football were there are as many fights, few leading to fatalities, as there is goals during a weeks so-called entertainment and if you so wish, i will enlist incidents catalogued over the years in this particular region.
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Everton Squad Rota 2007-2008
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No-Player-------------- DOB -- Birthplace ------------------------------------Apps Gls ------- Apps Gls ----------- Apps Gls
38 Victor Anichebe Apr 23, 1988 Lagos, Nigeria--------------------------- 0 ---- 0 ---------- 21 -- 4 --------------- 0 ---- 0
6 Mikel Arteta Mar 26, 1982 San Sebastian, Spain ------------------------- 0 ---- 0 ---------- 76 - 11 -------------- 96 -- 15
3 Leighton Baines Dec 11, 1984 Kirkby, England -------------------------- 0 ---- 0 ----------- 0 ---- 0 ------------- 145 - 4
36 Patrick Boyle Mar 20, 1987 Glasgow, Scotland ------------------------- 0 ---- 0 ---------- 0 --- 0 --------------- 3 ---- 0
17 Tim Cahill Dec 6, 1979 Sydney, Australia -------------------------------- 0 ---- 0 ---------- 76 - 11 ------------- 96 -- 15
26 Lee Carsley Feb 28, 1974 Birmingham, England ------------------------ 0 ---- 0 --------- 132 - 10 ----------- 232 - 20
2 Tony Hibbert Feb 20, 1981 Liverpool, England ---------------------------- 0 ---- 0 --------- 161 - 0 -------------- 0 ---- 0
24 Tim Howard Mar 6, 1979 North Brunswick, New Jersey, USA ------- 0 ---- 0 ---------- 36 -- 0 ------------ 130 -- 0
16 Phil Jagielka Aug 17, 1982 Manchester, England ----------------------- 0 ---- 0 ----------- 0 --- 0 ------------- 254 - 18
8 Andrew Johnson Feb 10, 1981 Bedford, England ----------------------- 0 ---- 0 ---------- 32 -- 11 ----------- 223 -- 11
27 Lukas Jutkiewicz Mar 28, 1989 Southampton, England ---------------- 0 ---- 0 ---------- 0 ---- 0 ------------ 38 ----- 5
5 Joleon Lescott Aug 16, 1982 Birmingham, England ---------------------- 0 ---- 0 ---------- 32 --- 2 ------------ 212 -- 13
11 James McFadden Apr 14, 1983 Glasgow, Scotland ------------------- 0 ---- 0 ---------- 93 -- 9 -------------- 63 ---- 26
18 Philip Neville Jan 21, 1977 Bury, England -------------------------------- 0 ---- 0 ---------- 69 --- 1 ------------ 263 ----- 18
21 Leon Osman May 17, 1981 Billinge, England ---------------------------- 0 ---- 0 ---------- 96 -- 13 ------------- 27 ---- 4
20 Steven Pienaar Feb 17, 1982 Johannesburg, South Africa ----------- 0 ---- 0 ----------- 0 ---- 0 ------------ 119 ---- 15
30 John Ruddy Oct 24, 1986 St Ives, England ------------------------------ 0 ---- 0 ----------- 1 ---- 0 ------------- 68 --- 0
38 Anderson Silva de França M Aug 28, 1982 São Paulo, Brazil -------- 0 ---- 0 ----------- 1 ---- 0 ------------- 53 ---- 2
15 Alan Stubbs Oct 6, 1971 Kirkby, England -------------------------------- 0 ---- 0 --------- 158 --- 5 ------------ 279 -- 13
13 Ian Turner Jan 26, 1984 Stirling, Scotland ------------------------------- 0 ---- 0 ----------- 4 ---- 0 ------------- 52 --- 0
19 Nuno Valente Sep 12, 1974 Lisbon, Portugal --------------------------- 0 ---- 0 ----------- 34 ---- 0 ---------- 235 -- 4
7 Andy van der Meyde Sep 30, 1979 Arnheim, Netherlands ------------ 0 ---- 0 ---------- 18 ---- 0 ----------- 175 -- 25
29 James Vaughan Jul 14, 1988 Birmingham, England -------------------- 0 ---- 0 ---------- 17 ---- 5 ------------- 0 ------ 0
31 Bjarni Vidarsson Mar 28, 1989 Reykjavik, Iceland ---------------------- 0 ---- 0 ----------- 0 ---- 0 ------------- 6 ---- 1
4 Joseph Yobo Sep 6, 1980 Kono, Nigeria ---------------------------------- 0 ---- 0 --------- 146 --- 5 ------------69 ----- 2
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The Everton Story (Part 1)
When Liverpool's Stanley Park was officially opened to the public in the summer of 1870, football was taking it's first faltering steps towards the game we know today. The Football Association, which had been formed in 1863, was still concerned with unifying the various sets of rules which held sway in different regions, but clubs like Notts County, Nottingham Forest, Sheffield Wednesday, Stoke and Chesterfield were already in existence. And the F.A Cup competition, and the first official England-Scotland international, were only two years away.
As the game grew, so working-class sides would eventually take over from public school, university and army sides as the dominant force. And the young scotsmen who were drifting south in search of employment would have much to do with that change. They were to prove adept players and dedicated administrators.
Many of the early football clubs in were associated with churches and chapels, and were named after them. Cricket clubs in the summer, they turned to football as the days grew shorter. One such organisation can claim the distinction of having been the cradle of Everton Football Club. The youngsters connected with St Domingo's Church formed a cricket club and in 1878 they added a football section to the rapidly-expanding organisation. The origins of Everton FC can be traced back to that date.
St Domingo's Football Club soon attracted members from outside the church and in November 1879, at a meeting in the Queen's Head Hotel, Village Street, it was decided to adopt the name of the district of Everton.
The first pitch was situated at the south-east corner of Stanley Park, opposite Stanley House, the home of John Houlding JP, a brewer who was later to become Lord Mayor of Liverpool, and a man who was to become one of the new club's most influential patrons. From the Park Lodge in Mill Lane, the first Everton players carried the goalposts, fixed them into hand crafted sockets and marked out the lines. There was no amission charge and, indeed, those few who gathered to watch the forerunners of some of the game's elite were at the mercy of the notoriously inclement North-West weather. Dressing room facilities were simply non-existant.
For the first few sesaons only a handful of dedicated spectators watched them, the Stanley CC cricketers being a conspicious group among the meagre gathering. Football at that time relied heavily on the art of dribbling. The passing game was something that we would learn from the Scots.
Everton's first-ever game was played in Stanley Park on 20 December 1879, against St Peter's. Everton had the happiest possible start, celebrating their inaugural game with a 6-0 victory. The local newspapers reported the score only - no teams or scorers - so the names of the men who played in that historic match are lost forever. (to be continued)
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Yakubu and Manuel Fernandes linked
Everton are now linked with two new transfer targets, two more realistic transfer targets but i am eager on one of these to develop into an actual capture. The blues have tabled a bid to lure Yakubu to Goodison from the Riverside Stadium in a £10 million bid. What i am focusing on however is the club's interest in bringing back Manuel Fernandes to the club. The Portugese star made a massive impact during his loan spell last term and this lad really is one superb prospect. I am just suprised it has taken this long for Moyes to put in a bid for him,if indeed he has, we should have snapped up this kid as soon as the season ended whether he cost £12 million or not.
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For the outside looking in, it is a little odd as to why Everton had not gone for these two targets earlier in the summer, if indeed the rumours turn out to be true. Neither are unknown to the Premiership, so would not need extra scouting or any special treatment, and both would have benefitted from a pre-season with new team-mates, so why wait until the eve of the season to go after them?
Especially in Yakubu's case as Boro' are surely going to be less likely to sell now they would only have 3 weeks to sign a replacement, and have already lost Viduka. The fact that these rumours are getting prime billing on ceefax/bbc website with 'BBC Sport understands....' (and the Gonzalez rumour) is very strange if there is no truth in them. It just seems like an odd state of affairs all round.
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Spot on mate.
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100 Everton Greats
# 98 Dave Hickson
Born: Elesmere Port, 8 October 1929.
Hickson in "That" strip
Everton Career Stats
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1951-52 --- 31 --- 14 --- 2 --- 0 ----- 33 -- 14
1952-53 --- 27 --- 12 --- 5 --- 4 ----- 32 -- 16
1953-54 --- 40 --- 25 --- 3 --- 3 ----- 43 -- 28
1954-55 --- 39 --- 12 --- 2 --- 1 ----- 41 -- 13
1955-56 ---- 2 ---- 0 ---- 0 --- 0 ----- 2 --- 0
1956-57 --- 35 --- 9 ---- 2 --- 3 ----- 37 -- 12
1957-58 --- 35 --- 9 ---- 5 --- 0 ----- 40 -- 5
1958-59 --- 39 --- 17 --- 4 --- 5 ----- 43 -- 22
1959-60 --- 12 --- 6 ---- 0 --- 0 ----- 12 -- 6
Total ------- 225 - 95 --- 18 - 16 ---- 243 - 111
Dave Hickson nicknamed "The cannonball kid" will always be remembered on Merseyside as a talented and forceful centre-forward with tremendous heading ability. Off the field, he was a quiet, retiring man who craved privacy, but as soon as he pulled on a football strip he was transformed into an aggressive, robust player who often fell foul of referees.
He was initially was initially with Ellesmere Port before signing professional forms for Everton in May 1948 as an 18-year-old. After losing his place to Jimmy Harris in September 1955 he was transferred to Aston Villa for £16,000 only two months later, and back to Everton in a deal worth £7,500 in July 1957. Sadly, little went right for him after his return.
In November 1959 Liverpool and Bill Shankly "who was Hickson's boss at Huddersfield" took him across Stanley Park for £12,000. His move to Liverpool caused a furore on Merseyside but on Hickson's debut at Anfield, he put 15,000 extra spectators on the gate and scored a brace in a 2-1 win for the reds against Aston Villa. Tweve months later he left Anfield and went into non-league football with Cambridge United. He later joined Tranmere Rovers and spent two years as player-manager of Irish League club Ballymena United.
Hickson famously said " I would break every bone in my body for any club i played for, but i would die for Everton". Today, Hickson still remains at the club as a tour guide at Goodison Park, so anyone who happens to be in Liverpool and fancies going on a tour of the stadium, you would meet the great man who is a lovely person to speak too.
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Sam
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So historically Valencia are bigger than Everton are you indicating, why? Because they had a good spell in the Champions " Chumpions" League for two years?? Anyone with an ounce of sense will tell you the English League is the most attractive to join. Unfortunately, your prefered subject is Argentinian football were there are as many fights, few leading to fatalities, as there is goals during a weeks so-called entertainment and if you so wish, i will enlist incidents catalogued over the years in this particular region.
What on earth has that got to do with anything?
What I was indicating was that Valencia right now have more money and tend to be attracting more (so called) 'top class' players. They stand more of a chance of winning their league this season than Everton do in their own, and Valencia are in the Champs League and have been for a good while now. I'm fully aware that Everton are bigger and more successful historically. But if it was only history that mattered when players signed for clubs, Chelsea wouldn't have managed all those transfers in the last few years, would they?
We're not talking about the Argentine league in any way, shape or form here, so quite how attacking it is going to strengthen your position I'm not sure. As for 'anyone with an ounce of sense' saying the Prem is the better league to join... well, it depends on the player, surely. English-speakers come here, English players almost exclusively remain here, but those from Hispanophone / Lusophone cultures (i.e. Latin America) generally tend to prefer countries where the language and culture are closer to their own. There are exceptions obviously, but you've only got to look at the number of South Americans in Italy and Spain, compared with the number in the Prem, to spot the general trend...
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Also Stephen, why did you only go back to my post and take exception to it a couple of days later, AFTER you'd already responded to it in perfectly good humour once?
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What post was that mate?
On the Humourous side, yes i try to mix seriousness up with abit of fun now and again. This forum at times, is far too serious and not light hearted enough.
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The post asking, 'The Luís González who Porto have recently turned down ENORMOUS transfer bids from Valencia for? Going to Everton?'. Your initial reaction was to explain you'd been joking about it being serious, and then you went back to it a day or two later and tore me to pieces for suggesting Valencia might be a bigger club to move to...
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I appologise if you felt i tore you to pieces, i dont think i was all that bad though. Maybe its that many continually mention difference's in class between teams that i jumped down your throat. Sorry mate.
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(Dons shellsuit and perm wig)
Eh lads! calm down, calm down!
Sorry...couldn't stop meself... 
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100 Everton Greats
# 97 Tommy Lawton
Born: Bolton, 6 October 1919.
Another great Centre-forward
in the clubs long tradition.
Everton Career Stats
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1936-37 --- 10 --- 3 ------ 1 --- 1 ---- 11 -- 4
1937-38 --- 39 -- 28 ------ 2 --- 0 ---- 41 - 28
1938-39 --- 38 -- 34 ------ 5 --- 4 ---- 43 - 38
Total ------- 87 -- 65 ------ 8 --- 5 ---- 95 - 70
Many critics would argue that Tommy Lawton was a better footballer than the legendary Dixie Dean, if not a better goalscorer. When he was in full flow he was simply too hot to handle and in the days when sides only played with one central defender, Lawton often found himself shadowed by a posse of attendants, desperately to cut short his famous surging runs before he reached th penalty area.
Despite his flat feet (he was forced to wear arch-supports in his boots) he was brilliant on the ground, spraying passes around with astonishing ease. His heading ability was second to none; they used to say that if the ball was in the air he would inevitably connect with it. He was born in Bolton and in three seasons of schoolboy football scored a staggering total of 570 goals.
Burnley snapped him up and he played his first League game for them just four days after his 17th birthday. It was a prophetic debut, for the youngster scored a hat-trick. He cost Everton £6,500 in March 1937 and repaid the club with 65 goals in 87 games. He topped the Football League scorers list in 1937-38 with 28 (jointly with Roberts of Port Vale) and again in 1938-39 (with Micky Fenton of Middlesbrough).
In November 1945, he joined Chelsea for £11,500, then Notts County (who paid a British record £20,000 for him). He then joined Brentford and Arsenal before becoming manager of Notts County, ending a career in which he had scored 231 goals in 390 League games, and 22 goals in 23 full England matches. Taking his wartime and Victory Internationals into account, his England figures were 46 goals in 45 games. Lawton died on 6 November 1996, aged 77.
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The Everton Story (Part 2)
On 24 January 1880, Everton met St Peter's again, this time winning 4-0. Again, no scorers were mentioned but we do know that the men named for Everton's second match were: W.Jones, T.Evans, J.Douglas, C.Chiles, S.Chalk, R.W Morris, A.White, F.Brettle, A.Wade, Smith, W.Williams. Everton's success meant they were attracting players from rival clubs and in 1880-81 Everton were admitted as members of the newly-formed Lancashire Football Association, an early recognition of merit within the country.
In the draw for the Lancashire Cup, Everton were paired with Great Lever, a side from the Bolton area and one of the better teams in the North of England. It was the first time Everton had travelled to a fixture by train and they returned in great spirits after holding Great Lever to a 1-1 draw. In the replay at Stanley Park, however, the Merseysiders were unceremoniously crushed 8-1.
Notwithstanding this embarrassing reversal, Everton's general play in this period was highly encouraging. Victoriies over Birkenhead (7-0) and Liverpool (5-0) were important contributions to the club's growing stature, although the Liverpool was no relation to the one we know today.
Everton's team was greatly strengthened by the arrival of Jack McGill, a former Glasgow Rangers player who proved to be a brilliant footballer and tireless coach. He was elected captain and the quality of his play was such that he added Lancashire representitive honours to those he had with his native Ayrshire.
Everton's colours have seen several changes down the years. Originally they were blue and white stripes, although new players often wore the shirts belonging to their former clubs. This led to a cry for uniformity which was made more pressing when Everton became affiliated to the Lancashire FA. Short of money themselves, and worried about embarrassing the less affluent playing members, Everton decided to dye all the shirts black, a two-inch wide scarlet sash being added as an afterthought to brighten up the morbid. The shirts led to the club's first nickname, ' the Black Watch '. Later, Everton adopted salmon shirts with blue shorts, and later stil, ruby shirts with blue trimmings and dark blue shorts. The famous royal blue was introduced much later. (to be continued)
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I'm fully aware that Everton are bigger and more successful historically.
Sam
Hmm, a quick check of the two teams history on Wiki suggests that actually the clubs are of similar ilk, Everton winning 9 league titles, 5 FA Cups, and one European CWC, and Valencia winning 6 Spanish titles, 6 Spanish Cups, 3 UEFA Cups and 1 CWC. In fact, I would even go as far as saying Valencia edge it on the basis of two European Cup final appearances.
Just thought I would add some petrol to the fire for a laugh, being as apparently everything is taken too seriously round here 
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the home of John Houlding JP, a brewer who was later to become Lord Mayor of Liverpool, and a man who was to become one of the new club's most influential patrons.
...and one of the first chairman to see the "financial possibilities" provided by football's booming popularity.
He more than doubled the rent on Anfield when the Football League began in 1888 as well as taking on all responsibility (and profits) from catering. It took three seasons for the discontent between Houlding & Everton to reach a head - his attempt to get Everton to become a limited liability company & pay £9237 10s - of which Houlding would get a cut - for the land - was cut off by George Mahon (organist of St Domingo's & member of the Board since 1889). Houlding tried to form a "new" Everton to replace his departing tenants but the FA said no and Liverpool was born...
And some people think the mix of business & football is a new phenomenon...
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Houlding tried to form a "new" Everton to replace his departing tenants but the FA said no and Liverpool was born...
Firstly, i would like to say a nice additional piece of information on the history, barney.
On the quoted article, is history repeating itself, as Kenwright and co are seemingly intent on forming a "new" Everton in 2007, with an already living Liverpool being re-born to become the sole residents of the city of Liverpool?? They say history repeats itself.
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It is almost time for the big kick-off, and i dont mean Righteous1 v Stephen Woodside .
On previewing Everton v Wigan Athletic, i predict the blues to get off to a 2-0 win with the opening goal coming from Jolean Lescott. However, Wigan will be no pushovers and this game certainly is no gimme, but ex-blue Kevin Kilbane may be forced to play at left-back and we all know he is no defender. Everton have been so disappointing in this summers transfer market, whereas the majority of Premiership clubs have been busy. I am slightly concerned for Everton as to actually see where the goals are going to come from. Obviously Andy Johnson springs to mind, and i also predict AJ will net tomorrow afternoon.
But with "Biffa" gone ' James Beattie', Vaughan out for four months and Cahill also injured, there is not much firepower left. Everton's best player, Mikel Arteta is always a threat, and little Leon Osman can chip in with a fair few goals. I see the Toffees lining up against Wigan with AJ as the lone striker with Victor Anichebe on the bench. With McFadden out also, "Shandy" van der meyde should start on the left hand side of midfield, and Phil Jagielka making his debut at right back.
Here is my predicted line up:
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Jagielka ------------ Lescott --------- Yobo ------------- Valente
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Arteta ---------------------- Carsley ------------ Van der Meyde
--------------- Osman
--------------- (Silva)
---------------------------- Johnson
Bench: Turner, Stubbs, Hibbert, Pienaar, Anichebe.
I will probably be miles off track in predicting this line up correctly. Oh and i also dont agree any home side playing one striker alone, the best form of defence is attack and Anichebe in my opinion should start alongside AJ. Unfortunately, we dont have enough options up-front as Moyes as failed to replace Beattie who will also score on his debut for the Blades, "twice".
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