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Welcome to my Everton thread, here i will be posting developments of the Goodison Park club including Scores ,Match Reports and General News about the club.
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Saturday 14 July 2007
Northern Ireland XI 0 Everton XI 2. Coleraine Sports Ground.
Everton: Turner, Irving, Rodwell, Lescott, Valente, Van der Meyde, Carsley, Anderson de Silva, Molyneux (Harpur 85), Johnson (Agard 66), Vaughan (Connor 72).Unused Substitutes: Stubhaug, Akpan, Stewart.
Goals: Vaughan 26, Agard 78.
Referee: Mr. M Courtney
Everton kicked off their pre-season campaign and enjoyed a a relatively comfortable run out against a Northern Ireland select 11
Andy Johnson back looked really sharp. He and his strike partner James Vaughan continued where he left off from last season up front.
He hit the post after 10 minutes with a snap shot from the edge of the box. Another effort from AJ produced a magnificent point blank save from Taylor that led to a corner. From the resulting corner Taylor dropped the ball under a challenge from Vaughan, Johnson poked the ball goal wards but was blocked on the line, but James Vaughan on his 19th birthday was there to lash the ball home to give the Toffees a deservingly goal lead.
Vaughan should have made it a brace when he headed wide from a superb cross from Nuno Valnte.
The Toffeemen brought two youngsters Agard and Conner in the place of Johnson and Vaughan and it was the newcomers who put the game to bed, It was the neat Anderson de Silva who put Conner clear on the right. He hit a lovely ball for Keiran Agard to finish off from close range.
The Toffeemen had one scare in the second half when the 16 year old Jack Rodwell cleared off the line after Turner was well beaten.
Everton's youngsters gave the fans a look at the future of the club. With the likes of Irving, Rodwell, Molyneux, Connor and Agard, the future looks good.
Saturday 14 July 2007
Bury 0 Everton XI 1.Gigg Lane.
Everton: Ruddy, Hibbert, Stubbs, Dennehy, Boyle, Morrison, Neville, Vidarsson, Kissock, Jutkiewicz, Anichebe. Unused Substitutes: Jones, Densmore, Spencer, Hall, Downes, Barnett.
Goal: Jutkiewicz 56. Attendance: 3,612.
Referee: J Moss.
This earlier kick off at Bury's Gigg Lane had more of youthful look to the line up. Hibbert, Neville, Stubbs and Anichebe where the senior players in the starting line up and all eleven players that started the game ended it. One really bright prospect by the name of John-Paul Kissock wasthe pick of the players in the game that did not really get going although the blues started off brightly with Victor Anichebe forcing the keeper to touch his powerful effort wide after just 70 seconds.
The only goal of the game came from debutant Lucas Jutkiewicz heading what looked like a tame header over a the stranded keeper. Jutkiewicz who signed for the Blues from Swindon Town in march had an indifferent game and was guilty of missing a couple of his chances. Atrteta, beattie and Jagielka where not risked for either game after picking up slight knocks in training.
As for Kissock who operated down the left side of midfield and signed proffessional forms recently, this lad has been spoken of very highly on Merseyside over the past couple of years and turned in several fine performance's for the reserve team last season. He possibly could become a familiar player this season or possibly the season after but one things for certain, everyone will know about JP before long.
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i watched the northern ireland game on setanta not very inspiring but i thought the forwards looked sharp and da silva looks ok but van de meyde still looks sluggish.how does beattie get injured in training so much?quality info by the way 
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Not sure why Beattie keeps getting injured, infact i would even go so far as to say i am not convinced he does get injured. He sadly seems out of place since he arrived on Merseyside and the sooner he goes the better. Middlesbrough are apparently tracking him. Pitty we could not have traded him in for Mark Viduka. All this coming from a man who has stood by Beattie believing he will come good but even i started losing patience with the former Southampton man.
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i was one of the biggest defenders of beattie in the past expecting him to come good after his injuries especially his toe injury(come on).i made the decision last season to stop going to goodison due to watching beattie standing on the half way line chewing with a beer belly(a tiny bit harsh) getting 40000 while i payed a small fortune for a season ticket.i dont mean to sound harsh but isnt mark viduka another overpriced overwaged overweight premier league forward!
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Mark Viduka went on a free, it would have just been his wages that would have been on the high side. Saying that, we would have got more out of the Aussie than Beattie's contribution of last season, that i am certain of. How did Beatts get on last season in terms of goalscoring??
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steve31
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he didnt get as many as viduka but i stand with what i said lets see how he does at newcastle?he certainly did well at the asia cup!
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Yes, it will be interesting how he gets on at St James Park, you never know Beattie may be on the opposing side in a big Boro v Newcastle North East derby!!!
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if beattie is playing for boro they are goin down!!!they probably are anyway!!regards newcastle there team is full of injury prone players eg viduka,owen,dyer,given,carr,babayaro,butt(if hes still there)big sam will need his 147 backroom staff to keep them fit!
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Everton Squad Rota 2007-2008
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No-Player-------------Ht---Wt--DOB---Birthplace-------------------------------------Apps Goals------Apps Goals-------Apps Goals
38 Victor Anichebe 6-1 176 Apr 23, 1988 Lagos, Nigeria
6 Mikel Arteta 5-9 154 Mar 26, 1982 San Sebastian, Spain
9 James Beattie 6-1 185 Feb 7, 1978 Lancaster, England
36 Patrick Boyle 5-10 141 Mar 20, 1987 Glasgow, Scotland
17 Tim Cahill 5-11 152 Dec 6, 1979 Sydney, Australia
26 Lee Carsley 5-10 163 Feb 28, 1974 Birmingham, England
22 Tony Hibbert 5-8 154 Feb 20, 1981 Liverpool, England
24 Tim Howard 6-2 198 Mar 6, 1979 North Brunswick, New Jersey, USA
16 Phil Jagielka 6-0 183 Aug 17, 1982 Manchester, England
8 Andrew Johnson 5-8 148 Feb 10, 1981 Bedford, England
27 Lukas Jutkiewicz 6-1 148 Mar 28, 1989 Southampton, England
5 Joleon Lescott 6-2 181 Aug 16, 1982 Birmingham, England
11 James McFadden 5-10 154 Apr 14, 1983 Glasgow, Scotland
18 Philip Neville 5-11 165 Jan 21, 1977 Bury, England
21 Leon Osman 5-8 137 May 17, 1981 Billinge, England
30 John Ruddy 6-0 210 Oct 24, 1986 St Ives, England
38 Anderson Silva de França M 6-1 179 Aug 28, 1982 São Paulo, Brazil
15 Alan Stubbs 6-3 192 Oct 6, 1971 Kirkby, England
13 Ian Turner 6-4 154 Jan 26, 1984 Stirling, Scotland
19 Nuno Valente 6-0 172 Sep 12, 1974 Lisbon, Portugal
27 Andy van der Meyde 5-11 174 Sep 30, 1979 Arnheim, Netherlands
29 James Vaughan 5-11 176 Jul 14, 1988 Birmingham, England
31 Bjarni Vidarsson 6-1 172 Mar 28, 1989 Reykjavik, Iceland
4 Joseph Yobo 6-1 168 Sep 6, 1980 Kono, Nigeria
(Updates to Follow).
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Any chance that Van Der Meyde will actualy make an effort this season Stephen?
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stephen_woodside
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Big question mate. I am really hoping so but cant see it. When the Dutchman signed for the Blues i was so delighted. What has happened to my moment of elation of his signing to this date i cant explain. He has never looked fit since his arrival at Goodison and has been nicknamed in these neck of the woods as "Shandy" refering to his endless late nights he spends out in Liverpool City Centre. Whether he has been behaving himself of late, well i guess only time will tell and to see him consistantly performing well at Everton, that would be like a new signing for the club. Everyone knows Van Der Meyde has tons of ability, but once again only time will tell how he fares.
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Everton Premiership Fixtures 2007-2008
August 2007
Wigan Sat 11th 15:00 H
Tottenham Tue 14th 20:00 A
Reading Sat 18th 15:00 A
Blackburn Sat 25th 17:15 H
September 2007
Bolton Sat 1st 15:00 A
Man Utd Sat 15th 12:00 H
Aston Villa Sun 23rd 14:00 A
Middlesbrough Sun 30th 16:00 H
October 2007
Newcastle Sun 7th 15:00 A
Liverpool Sat 20th 12:45 H
Derby Sat 27th 15:00 A
November 2007
Birmingham Sat 3rd 15:00 H
Chelsea Sat 10th 15:00 A
Sunderland Sat 24th 15:00 H
December 2007
Portsmouth Sat 1st 15:00 A
Fulham Sat 8th 15:00 H
West Ham Sat 15th 15:00 A
Man Utd Sat 22nd 15:00 A
Bolton Wed 26th 15:00 H
Arsenal Sat 29th 15:00 H
January 2008
Middlesbrough Tue 1st 15:00 A
Man City Sat 12th 15:00 H
Wigan Sat 19th 15:00 A
Tottenham Wed 30th 19:45 H
February 2008
Blackburn Sat 2nd 15:00 A
Reading Sat 9th 15:00 H
Man City Sat 23rd 15:00 A
March 2008
Portsmouth Sat 1st 15:00 H
Sunderland Sat 8th 15:00 A
Fulham Sat 15th 15:00 A
West Ham Sat 22nd 15:00 H
Liverpool Sat 29th 15:00 A
April 2008
Derby Sun 6th 15:00 H
Birmingham Sat 12th 15:00
Chelsea Sat 19th 15:00 H
Aston Villa Sat 26th 15:00 H
May 2008
Arsenal Sat 3rd 15:00 A
Newcastle Sun 11th 15:00 H
Cup Fixtures will be added after draws are made.
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Everton Squad Rota 2007-2008
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No-Player-------------Ht---Wt--DOB---Birthplace-------------------------------------Apps Goals------Apps Goals-------- Apps Goals
38 Victor Anichebe 6-1 176 Apr 23, 1988 Lagos, Nigeria--------------------------- 0 ---- 0 --------- 21 ----- 4 ------------ 0 ---- 0
6 Mikel Arteta 5-9 154 Mar 26, 1982 San Sebastian, Spain ------------------------- 0 ---- 0 --------- 76 ---- 11 ----------- 96 ---15
9 James Beattie 6-1 185 Feb 7, 1978 Lancaster, England --------------------------- 0 ---- 0 -------- 76 --- 13 --- 208 --68
36 Patrick Boyle 5-10 141 Mar 20, 1987 Glasgow, Scotland ------------------------ 0 ---- 0 ----- 0 ----- 0 ----- 3 ---- 0
17 Tim Cahill 5-11 152 Dec 6, 1979 Sydney, Australia ------------------------------- 0 ---- 0 -------- 76 ---- 11 ------96 ---- 15
26 Lee Carsley 5-10 163 Feb 28, 1974 Birmingham, England ----------------------- 0 ---- 0 -------- 132 ---- 10 ---- 232 --- 20
22 Tony Hibbert 5-8 154 Feb 20, 1981 Liverpool, England --------------------------- 0 ---- 0 -------- 161 ---- 0 ------- 0 ---- 0
24 Tim Howard 6-2 198 Mar 6, 1979 North Brunswick, New Jersey, USA -------- 0 ---- 0 ------ 36 ----- 0 ----- 130 ----- 0
16 Phil Jagielka 6-0 183 Aug 17, 1982 Manchester, England ------------------------ 0 ---- 0 -------- 0 ----- 0 ------- 254 ------ 18
8 Andrew Johnson 5-8 148 Feb 10, 1981 Bedford, England ------------------------ 0 ---- 0 ------- 32 ----- 11 ----------223 ---- 11
27 Lukas Jutkiewicz 6-1 148 Mar 28, 1989 Southampton, England ----------------- 0 ---- 0 ------- 38 ----- 5
5 Joleon Lescott 6-2 181 Aug 16, 1982 Birmingham, England ----------------------- 0 ---- 0 ----- 32 --- 2 --- 212 ---- 13
11 James McFadden 5-10 154 Apr 14, 1983 Glasgow, Scotland ------------------- 0 ---- 0 ---------- 93 ---- 9 -------- 63 ---- 26
18 Philip Neville 5-11 165 Jan 21, 1977 Bury, England -------------------------------- 0 ---- 0 ---------- 69 ----- 1 -------- 263 ----- 18
21 Leon Osman 5-8 137 May 17, 1981 Billinge, England ----------------------------- 0 ---- 0 ------- 96 ---- 13 ------- 27 ---- 4
30 John Ruddy 6-0 210 Oct 24, 1986 St Ives, England ------------------------------- 0 ---- 0 -------- 1 ------ 0 ----------- 68 ------ 0
38 Anderson Silva de França M 6-1 179 Aug 28, 1982 São Paulo, Brazil --------- 0 ---- 0 ----- 1 ---- 0 ------ 53 ---- 2
15 Alan Stubbs 6-3 192 Oct 6, 1971 Kirkby, England -------------------------------- 0 ---- 0 ------------ 158 ---- 5 -------279 ----- 13
13 Ian Turner 6-4 154 Jan 26, 1984 Stirling, Scotland -------------------------------- 0 ---- 0 ----- 4 ------ 0 ----- 52 ------ 0
19 Nuno Valente 6-0 172 Sep 12, 1974 Lisbon, Portugal ---------------------------- 0 ---- 0 ----------- 34 ------ 0 ---------- 235 ------4
27 Andy van der Meyde 5-11 174 Sep 30, 1979 Arnheim, Netherlands ----------- 0 ---- 0 ---------- 18 ----- 0 --- 175 ----25
29 James Vaughan 5-11 176 Jul 14, 1988 Birmingham, England ------------------- 0 ---- 0 ------ 17 ------ 5 ------------- 0 ------ 0
31 Bjarni Vidarsson 6-1 172 Mar 28, 1989 Reykjavik, Iceland ---------------------- 0 ---- 0 ------- 0 ------ 0 --------- 6 ---- 1
4 Joseph Yobo 6-1 168 Sep 6, 1980 Kono, Nigeria -------------------------------- 0 ---- 0 ------- 146 ----- 5 -------69 ----- 2
work in progress
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Everton Squad Rota 2007-2008
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No-Player-------------Ht---Wt--DOB---Birthplace-------------------------------------Apps Goals------Apps Goals-------- Apps Goals
38 Victor Anichebe 6-1 176 Apr 23, 1988 Lagos, Nigeria--------------------------- 0 ---- 0 --------- 21 ----- 4 ------------ 0 ---- 0
6 Mikel Arteta 5-9 154 Mar 26, 1982 San Sebastian, Spain ------------------------- 0 ---- 0 --------- 76 ---- 11 ----------- 96 ---15
9 James Beattie 6-1 185 Feb 7, 1978 Lancaster, England --------------------------- 0 ---- 0 -------- 76 ---- 13 ----------- 208 -- 68
36 Patrick Boyle 5-10 141 Mar 20, 1987 Glasgow, Scotland ------------------------ 0 ---- 0 --------- 0 ----- 0 ------------ 3 ---- 0
17 Tim Cahill 5-11 152 Dec 6, 1979 Sydney, Australia ------------------------------- 0 ---- 0 -------- 76 ---- 11 ----------- 96 ---- 15
26 Lee Carsley 5-10 163 Feb 28, 1974 Birmingham, England ----------------------- 0 ---- 0 -------- 132 ---- 10 ---------- 232 --- 20
22 Tony Hibbert 5-8 154 Feb 20, 1981 Liverpool, England --------------------------- 0 ---- 0 -------- 161 ---- 0 ----------- 0 ---- 0
24 Tim Howard 6-2 198 Mar 6, 1979 North Brunswick, New Jersey, USA -------- 0 ---- 0 --------- 36 ----- 0 ---------- 130 ---- 0
16 Phil Jagielka 6-0 183 Aug 17, 1982 Manchester, England ------------------------ 0 ---- 0 ---------- 0 ----- 0 ----------- 254 ---- 18
8 Andrew Johnson 5-8 148 Feb 10, 1981 Bedford, England ------------------------ 0 ---- 0 --------- 32 ----- 11 ----------223 -- 11
27 Lukas Jutkiewicz 6-1 148 Mar 28, 1989 Southampton, England ---------------- 0 ----- 0 --------- 0 ---- 0 ------------ 38 ----- 5
5 Joleon Lescott 6-2 181 Aug 16, 1982 Birmingham, England ----------------------- 0 ---- 0 --------- 32 --- 2 ------------ 212 ---- 13
11 James McFadden 5-10 154 Apr 14, 1983 Glasgow, Scotland ------------------- 0 ---- 0 ---------- 93 ---- 9 ---------- 63 ---- 26
18 Philip Neville 5-11 165 Jan 21, 1977 Bury, England -------------------------------- 0 ---- 0 ---------- 69 ----- 1 -------- 263 ----- 18
21 Leon Osman 5-8 137 May 17, 1981 Billinge, England ----------------------------- 0 ---- 0 ---------- 96 ---- 13 ---------- 27 ---- 4
30 John Ruddy 6-0 210 Oct 24, 1986 St Ives, England ------------------------------- 0 ---- 0 ----------- 1 ------ 0 ----------- 68 ------ 0
38 Anderson Silva de França M 6-1 179 Aug 28, 1982 São Paulo, Brazil --------- 0 ---- 0 ---------- 1 ---- 0 ------------- 53 ---- 2
15 Alan Stubbs 6-3 192 Oct 6, 1971 Kirkby, England -------------------------------- 0 ---- 0 --------- 158 ---- 5 -----------279 ----- 13
13 Ian Turner 6-4 154 Jan 26, 1984 Stirling, Scotland -------------------------------- 0 ---- 0 ---------- 4 ------ 0 ----------- 52 ------ 0
19 Nuno Valente 6-0 172 Sep 12, 1974 Lisbon, Portugal ---------------------------- 0 ---- 0 ----------- 34 ------ 0 ---------- 235 ------4
27 Andy van der Meyde 5-11 174 Sep 30, 1979 Arnheim, Netherlands ----------- 0 ---- 0 ---------- 18 ----- 0 ----------- 175 ----25
29 James Vaughan 5-11 176 Jul 14, 1988 Birmingham, England ------------------- 0 ---- 0 ---------- 17 ------ 5 ------------- 0 ------ 0
31 Bjarni Vidarsson 6-1 172 Mar 28, 1989 Reykjavik, Iceland ---------------------- 0 ---- 0 ----------- 0 ------ 0 ------------- 6 ---- 1
4 Joseph Yobo 6-1 168 Sep 6, 1980 Kono, Nigeria ---------------------------------- 0 ---- 0 ---------- 146 ----- 5 ------------69 ----- 2
That is it for now, can i put in a request to World Soccer. Can you make it easier to straighten out the text because it is an absolute nightmare trying to tidy up the threads when using tables or lists. Thank You.
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Stephen, Looking at your squad list.
Can you tell me anything about Lukas Jutkiewicz, i assume just another youth player not getting any games and Anderson Silva de França, is he the guy who was at Malaga on loan? And when did he make his one game for Everton?
I'm also surprised he can get a work permit or maybe he has found a Italian Grandmother?
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Druryfire
Looking at the Wiki, Everton did with Anderson exactly what Arsenal are doing with Carlos Vela. "Parked him" in Spain until he became eligible for a Spanish passport & no longer needs a work permit.
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Having been released by Southampton as a 14-year old, Jutkiewicz first rose to prominence in 2004, when he ended the Milk Cup tournament in Northern Ireland as top goalscorer - emulating the feat of Wayne Rooney who participated in the tournament four years earlier.
At the age of 17 Jutkiewicz was handed his professional debut, coming on as a substitute in a 2-1 defeat at Swansea's Liberty Stadium in April 2006. A week later he was handed his first start, when he gave a hard-working performance in a 2-1 win at Scunthorpe.
Eager to hold on to the young star, manager Iffy Onuora promised Jutkiewicz a professional deal, despite him still having a year of his scholarship remaining - but doubt was cast over the deal when Onuora was sacked and replaced with new boss Dennis Wise during May. When Jutkiewicz had no contact with Wise over the summer, he admitted he was "slightly concerned" about his deal - but any fears were dispelled when he signed a three year contract in July 2006.
Jutkiewicz was patient for his introduction to the first team in 2006/2007 but finally made his first league start of the season in Swindon's 2-0 defeat to Mansfield. The next game, against top of the table Walsall, saw Jutkiewicz score his first senior goal to guide Swindon Town to an impressive victory. Jutkiewicz went on to score four more goals during the 06/07 season to help the club gain promotion to League 1.
Everton FC
In March 2007, Jutkiewicz signed a pre-contract agreement with Everton for a rumoured fee of £500,000 rising to £1,000,000 on appearances.[1] He joined up with the club for pre-season training in July 2007 and was handed the number 27 shirt - previously worn by Peter Clarke.
On 13/7/07 Lukas rapped the game up for Everton agianst Bury scoring a goal on his debut. (Info from Wikipedia).
As for Anderso Da Silva, badgerboy is correct on is knowledge on how Everton brought him through, that similar to Carlos Vela. Da Silva made an 88th minute appearance against Charlton Athletic in the 2-1 victory at Goodison Park.
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Everton Transfer Talk
Everton have opened up talks with Switzerland international captain Johann Vogel over a possible move to Goodison Park.
Anyone got any thoughts on the player in question??
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steve31
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regarding the squad lists isnt it amazing there is no number 1,2 or 3.personally i would like them to get vogel at least its another player i think he was at ac milan but didnt play to much but if hes captain of a a national side he must be ok and he is a free transfer could be a quality signing.i was goin to say the other day moyes always seems to come up with players no one is looking at.
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Thought Hibbert would have got the number two jersey this season but maybe Moyes as a right back lined up. Agree with you on Vogel, you can not lose on a free transfer and with international quality it could be a good piece of business and had that bit more experience to a very thin squad. We still need strengthening further to hopefully having a longer more successful challenge in Europe this term.
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The Great Stadium Debate
Should Everton move to Kirkby? Yes or No?? Will Everton move at all? Yes or No?? For those unaware of the situation, Everton's proposed move to Kirkby, located just outside the border of Liverpool and situated in the Borough of Knowsley, is to say the least a very much talked about topic. Is it also correct to only allow 33,000 season ticket holders the right to vote on a stadium move??
Well for one, at least 70% of the 33,000 voters will not agree in a move to Kirkby, that is for sure. Only Everton fans blind folded, will know all this talk of a stadium move is all fictitious. Everton have attempted to re-build facilities at their training headquarters at Bellefield, West Derby, Liverpool. This was seven years ago if not longer infact, and still we wait on permission to improve facilities or to be given permission to re-locate to Halewood in the borough of Knowsley. Everton's Academy is based in Litherland, in the borough of Sefton. Can anyone less scepticle than me see a familiar pattern emerging??
Let me tell you all the truth, this talk of moving or staying as not progressed for many years now because Liverpool City Council do not "HOLD" Everton Football Club in high esteem. This is the reason why the club see's the need to move 7 miles down the East Lancs Road to build a new stadium in Knowsley, but this too will not happen. Why, because the funding is simply non-existant!!
I for one knew the proposed Kings Dock move was all "pie in the sky" talk and referring to that particular move only council members could vote yes or no to go ahead with stadium proposal's. The strange thing about all this is all council members had restrictions in whether they could vote to give the go-ahead. To be eligible to vote they could not have have any connections with Everton Football Club, They could not have any connections with/or being a fan of the game and finally they could not have any connections with football as a whole. Straight away we are struggling. Then rumour after counter rumour was that there was not enough money funded for the kings dock regeneration. I will let you have your say now then continue with what i know will happen next. This will also contest the clubs reasoning as to why you have to pay to have your say.
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Didn't they announce they were about to do the 'Deal of the CENTURY' yesterday? 
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Oh yes, and it made me chuckle a touch. "Deal of the CENTURY"? What a Joke.
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That statement by Wynerss was embarrassing. Pitiful attempt to bribe the fans to say yes to a move. All this talk of no Plan B is tantamount to blackmail. The figures are vague too. Eg. £10M extra per season for Moyes. Where did he pluck that figure from?
Kirkby came about because Everton couldn't afford to redevelop Goodison and because they couldn't afford to build a new stadium. They appproached Tesco chief executive and Everton fan Sir Terry Leahy to see if he could help out. He trawled around possible sites in Liverpool but found none that were suitable. He genuinely thinks that Kirkby represents the best deal for the club. The Tesco development will go ahead there even if Everton don't build a new stadium.
Stephen, I think you might be wrong about the esteem in which Everton are held by Liverpool Council. It's the oldest business in the City and I don't think they (the majority of councillors at least) want to lose the club. The council always preferred a shared stadium, which is logical when you think about it. However, Liverpool were confident they could go it alone and dismissed the idea. Even if they hadn't Everton would not have had the money for their half of the costs, so it was always a dead duck anyway.
I'm fairly confiden that the vote will be no, but I'm less confident that the club will abide by that vote. The one note of optimism I see is that Kenwright doesn't want to be seen as the man who took the club out of Liverpool. I think he originally viewed this move as his legacy, after which he could have sold out (at a profit), but having witnessed the level of opposition, he may be having second thoughts. Wyness, who's driving this, couldn't care less about 100+ years of history and is looking to leave his mark.
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I like your thoughts on this Barney, i do however still believe there is a problem with Liverpool City Council ence the reason why we are in talks with Knowsley Borough Council over this move. I agree with you that the Tesco development will go ahead regardless and the club will move there and what has not been mentioned which i am sure will happen, is that once Goodison Park is knocked to the ground, Tesco will build yet another Supermarket into the bargain so they get the best of both worlds.
Then Everton Football Club will make huge profits in selling off pieces of the ground to fans. I have never been convinced over the fact that Goodison cannot be re-developed. If the club, the Council and others concerned were to seriously come up with a plan to restruture the ground, i am certain they would be able to. On a ground share with Liverpool, we know that would never have happened anyway and the Council knew this that is why they compomised the idea knowing full well the idea would go no further.
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Stephen, I think you might be wrong about the esteem in which Everton are held by Liverpool Council. It's the oldest business in the City and I don't think they (the majority of councillors at least) want to lose the club.
If they lost it, couldn't they just 'order' another one from that bloke in the pub?
JUST KIDDING!!!!
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Remaining Pre-Season fixtures
July 2007
Preston Wed 18th 19:30 A
Real Salt Lake Sat 21st TBC
Stirling Albion (R) Thu 26th 19:30 A
Kendal Town (R) Sat 28th 15:00 A
Werder Bremen Tue 31st 20:00 H
August 2007
Warrington Town (R) Thu 2nd 19:30 A
Crystal Palace Sat 4th 15:00 A
Aberystwyth Town (R) Tue 7th 19:30 A
(R) = Reserve team games.
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